INTJ

look up socionics if your an intj

Ok. I can see I am an INTJ but with heart failures ;/

I bet more than half of you aren't actually INTJ matches...just like it because it is one of the most rare. Such an analytical personality type most certainly is hard to deal with; not as positive as some of you are so assertive about. I find it amusing how many of you are exerting non-matching qualities. Such analytics, organization, and attention to detail would not allow for so many grammatical and spelling errors. Quit lying to yourselves...

Wonder where they get all this stuff? its so true!

Hmmmm just 2% of the population huh? OK Ladies: If you are single and attractive and If you want a smart man, who knows what love is, hit me up. I am a rarity apparently. I always knew it, just never shouting it out since I didn't want to come off arrogant. But hey, according to this I should have been! LOL

Extremely private, where it is almost like I live two seperate lives. There is church because I do believe in God- to me it is completely logical and there is no other way around it. I can't quite give in to altering my lifestyle for my belief because I can't handle giving up my control. Depeche mode states it perfectly, "I give in to sin because you have to make this life livable". Just a song but very true.
I used to get in to debating theology with others but the isolation this brings isn't received as a respected privacy. I'm allowed to my ideas, as are you. I won't push mine off on you. However I'm right. I won't say anything at all. The response I receive is more that I am hated and I have come to realize no one's ideas are accepted if they are different in any group. This is ok.

I feel like the Facebook troll- read, nod, scroll, read- form a response in my head, scroll. Commenting anywhere is not normal. I'm ok with this. People studying is something I really like. Anyone's interest here I'm assuming is to better see what is similar between the intj personality. Maybe some of what I'm adding strikes a chord with whomever is giving this time.

Continuing.. Second life is the club where I go to people watch (and feel home cocooned in music too loud for anyone to demand any sort of justification of anything) watching transvestites and other misjudged people live freely and not give a damn to justify themselves either in how they live their own lives.

Dating as in intj female is hard. I do have feelings. I'm guarded over them because they feed the feeling types - too encouraging to settle with me. Gets me in situations that I hate to be in. In the moment I share these I'm suddenly someone to watch over or "baby". Not that I can't appreciate someone ordering a drink for me or wanting time with me. But there never seems to be an in between. I don't belong to anyone because I can not let someone step in and control me. There always seems to be some hidden way to do that. Share an account then they want to know why you were eating at a sushi place at four in the morning. Why? Why not? Why is it your business? So having someone I am just physical with suits me although I've read intj hate casual. How can it be?
I don't need to explain what I do and hate feeling like I owe any sort of formal introduction to what I'm about to do when I decide I'm going to do something. Sorry I worked all day and I am very tired I need to go to bed. No - it is goodnight.

My quietness conveys to some that I am shy. If I am with someone that is assuming I am theirs then suddenly speaking to someone else must mean I am inebriated and should be cut off and my keys taken away.
This is harder still, being soft spoken and petite.

It's why I count two friends and one hears the surface story of one life and the other hears the other.
I'm perfectly capable of managing both and do it alone. It isn't because I feel like I owe them the respect of not doing things they would tell me not to do so much as it is that I hate having to explain. They might want to tag along and suddenly I have no control over my own experiences.
I fought this for years trying to figure out a way towards connecting with others figuring that I must somehow be damaged. Maybe even I should see a psychologist. But anything else seems out of the ordinary for me or exaggerated and fake.
Then I hate the second guessing of my actions and laying in bed combing over every tiny thing spoken to see where I might have mixed signals to someone. Seems that saying I'm misunderstood and always need to explain myself is a theme for the intj. But just accepting that I don't have to be appreciated, I don't have to be supported, I don't have to be understood; secrets are something that I can keep the world from attacking makes me feel liberated.
Maybe none of this makes sense to anyone else because even being in a category together we're all led differently and were let down in different ways.
I don't feel isolated in these shoes as I did growing up. I wouldn't trade them. I do feel that I cheat others in ever fully knowing me. But can't comfortably change that.

I'm a highly spiritual female INTJ. Restrictions and limitations just don't work for me. Freedom to explore all areas of my mind and my physical world is very important to me. I have a hard time listening to people with limitations on their own mind talk. I loved reading this description as it helps me to better understand myself and further improve myself.

As an herbalist and entrepreneur I spend a lot of time researching then bringing my ideas to life. I once had a boring and meaningless job. I decided to teach myself German as a second language to keep my brain from melting :-).

I think religion is a cage for the mind and spirit. I disliked it from a very young age. High rates of consumption, lack of social responsibility and sustainability really ruffles my feathers. I once came home from a trip to Germany to find a fridge full of warm vegetables. Call a repair man? No. Get a new fridge? No. Borrow my neighbors tools and fix it myself? Yes! Now I know all about how to maintain appliances and troubleshoot issues.

INTJ's are an interesting bunch. I'm the type to see things, quickly understand concepts and mechanisms that make things work, then apply them to anything else where the concept can improve the efficiency. It's so innate I don't even realize it's happening. I like to make life easier and less non-sensical. I equate inefficiency with insanity. Money doesn't drive me, purpose does. I create my own world.

This site told me that my thinking perceiving scores were tied so they couldn't judge if I was an INTP or and INTJ. I took a peek at the comments section of the INTP people and they were debating someone's statement that "This profile is 100% accurate at describing them" because he/she was a sample size of one. And I instantly knew I wasn't an INTP. To nitpick someone expressing a personal experience simply to invalidate them as an INTP, because they displayed un-INTP behavior, is the most banal drivel I have seen in a while.

I was reading on another site that INTJ women often run into trouble because they don't care about gender roles (which goes along with the whole not caring about hierarchy thing) and I flashed back to the time I told my mother I really don't think of myself as female. The look of horror on her face was priceless. She loves all the typical womanly stuff. Decorating the house, jewelry, baking, cooking, looking feminine.

I'm not so sure INTJs are as confident as we may seem. INTJs tend to accept new ideas and views based exclusively on reason, fact and demonstration. The "everybody says" arguments rarely hold water with us. This gives the appearance of supreme confidence, but in fact, an INTJ will seamlessly change long held beliefs with little fuss when contradictory ideas are presented in a reasoned way.

Is confidence in our ideas (and the methods we use to come to conclusions) the same as self confidence? I'm not so sure. If it was, INTJs would rule the world.

When I took the test a few years ago I didnt really pay attention to it, I know Im definitely an Introvert but the rests not so sure. I just took it again and this time I found that this really accurately describes me, to the t. Well, at my workplace I've always despised my coworkers that I viewed as being less competent, not finishing their tasks, checking their phones constantly, omg I hate them soooo sooo much I dont even want to talk to them except if it is work related. I also hate chit chat, so useless esp at the office, where I think ppl should just finish their work before spending time walking around the office and talk nonsense. I become really ignorant of other ppl whom I see as incompetent and not as intelligent, in other words, i fear myself and what I turned into. I was not like this when I first graduated college more than a decade ago! What changed? I used to like socializing, well, never much of a talker since I am an introvert, but I did not want to miss out so I went to happy hour and got to know ppl. Well, now I am perfectly content staying home, reading and analyzing things, thinking and more thinking. Whether it's the state of the earth with global warming looming, US presidency, terrorism, or just what I need to do at work. Why did I turn out this way?

I work restlessly, not because of a deadline but because I set my own standard on what I want to accomplish. I cannot say I am a leader, because I despise set rules and conforming to them when I don't think they make sense to me. However, when I work on a project all the managers rely on me because of my speed and knowledge. Noone will deny that I am one of the very few who can do what I do with extreme efficiency, accuracy and precision.

I don't ever go to happy hour anymore, I also don't try to know anyone that I see as beneath me, I prefer to do things myself because I don't have any expectation that other ppl in the office will be able to do them as well as I can. At work, I am very confident of my skills that I know I am good at, but overtime I realize communication is nvr going to be my strong points. I can write a good email, but in actual meeting I nvr know how to present myself well, which is why I loathe interviews. I value ppl that are hardworking and intelligent, but hate ppl who like to talk but nvr finish their tasks, the Entertainer type. Now I know why I dont like this person, haha, that is so interesting!

I like intellectually stimulating conversations, but hate arrogant ppl, which is ironic because INTJ is also described as being arrogant. In general maybe I just dont like ppl. I'd rather do what I know, and I get better and better at it that there really is not much that will escape my watch. I always strive to improve myself, but atthe same time, I hate that I cannot not look down on other ppl... I really dont want to be this way, but these ppl are killing me, they do their work sloppily and I always have to fix their work, to the point where I cease all communication with them except where absolutely necessary to get the work done. Don't expect me to ask you how you weekend goes, that is not what an INTJ does, omg it makes sense now because I thought I was a freak, but I feel better knowing there are others like me out there.

When ppl ask me questions and I try to answer them, I ponder if I should give them the long or short answer. Well if they are smart, I'll give them the long answer, if not, or if I dont really like them, I give them the short answer. It doesnt matter anyway, most of the time they dont really do as I say, well, if they did, good for them. If not, well if they work with me I will put them in my black list and not ever talk to them again unless absolutely necessary, or if they work on other projects where I am not involved, then goodluck. Haha.

In conclusion, I agree that INTJs are very selective when it comes to socializing, and who to let into their circles. The reason being, I hate mindless gossiping, and talking abt other ppl's personal lives bore me. Is it because I am too selfish? Or just a personality trait? I dont like taking selfie of myself like most of my friends. I use my fb acct as my posting board of things I read that I find interesting, not to post about what I'm doing or where I'm at, like most ppl. I prefer reading to watching, because I can read pretty fast but watching is hard because you cannot fastforward and understand the video at the same time. In short, the whole thing written abt INTJ is a perfect description of myself, minus the leadership skill, which I prefer to do behind the scene, I am perfectly capable to do anything and everything I set my mind to do, and being a stay at home parent is the least thing I want to do, again, very spot on. About religion, I have my informed opinions abt different religions, as I studied them a little bit, and I arrived at the conclusion that I am an atheist after all. The more you learn abt a religion, the more you see what ppl w religion do to others, the more inclined you are to be an atheist, don't you think? I don't want to go into details, but with so much terrorism, sexual crimes, pedophilia, etc etc plaguing ppl who are supposed to be God's beacons, I'd rather look elsewhere for enlightenment! Lol.

An INTJ group just seems paradoxical

Geez, this is almost like what I imagine a self-help group would be like: "Hi. My name is (name). I'm an INTJ".

I remember telling a couple of people how I found it amazing that I could be surrounded by a thousand people and still feel all alone. Either they didn't understand or they thought I was going to hurt myself, so I decided that was best an "inside thought" and stopped telling people. I'm over 50 now and I don't like being an INTJ. It's almost like self-exile. I understand, appreciate and respect the characteristics, but the yin to that yang is it's like a sacrifice where while one is happily working and focused on the betterment of society so to say, the result is exclusion from it. Oddly enough, working as a business consultant has provided me not only the opportunity to work in a capacity which fits me, but it has forced me to work on skills which don't come natural to me and the driving factor in that is if I don't handle clients properly, even if I'm right I'm out of a job because I'm an asshole and they don't want to work with me. So I've learned how to do some of that touchy-feely, inane, brain-rotting crap.

I can now accept the fact that people don't always hold themselves to the same standards I do, usually don't follow the same logic I do, or perform to the same level I would like them to. It makes me sad but I can understand it, and that helps a lot. The parenting is dead-on. I tell my kids, "You are not allowed to make the same mistakes I did. You must make new ones". Then I tell them a lot of Stupid Dad stories, they laugh their butts off and then we do a hotwash on the story after, and pray they learn from it. I can be very curt and direct. This is how I prefer people to deal with me.

Romance is tough and I'm as thick as a tree root when it comes to sensing and picking up on subtle clues. On the other hand I am a romantic and I love physical contact. Holding hands, dancing close, watching a movie or TV w/ my loved one smashed right up next to me. I fall asleep every night with my hand touching my wife. Head, shoulder, forearm - doesn't matter. Love hugs and kisses, can't get enough. It was very difficult to find someone who could tolerate me but I knew if I settled I would be worse off than if I just waited it out. Sometimes I was lonely and sometimes I was happy being alone but when the time came for my wife to come into my life, it was good timing and fortunate to find someone who "got" me. On the other hand, not big into talking about my "feelings". The thing that frustrates me the most on this particular topic is when someone tries to interpret what I am saying when in fact I am saying exactly what I want to say. No hidden message. And when I say I don't feel anything about something, I really don't, and no, I do not find that odd. Next topic.

I'm also a Christian and I believe with no doubt in the existence of God. My challenge comes with humans, i.e. the imperfect, trying to interpret and relay the meaning and intent of the Perfect, i.e. God. By rights and when I think about it, logically I should be an agnostic at best but I have always believed in God. Can't explain it. It's just always been there; and absolute truth for me. I'm the kind of person where if you tell me to take a step forward I'll take 3 back just to show you, so the theory of having someone brainwash me into my belief doesn't hold water. I'm more inclined to follow the theory of free will to explain why most things happen to us v. destiny but I also believe in occasional intervention. I don't believe in "divine mystery" as much as I do mortal ignorance. I don't think God hides His intentions. I think we're just too stupid to understand them. Yes, even the INTJs. :^D

Anyway, probably wrote too much for most people to care to read so if you made it this far - thanks. Back to the island of one in a sea of thousands.

From many of the comments, it seems that fellow members of this group revel in vanity, believing themselves to be the greatest thing since sliced bread. This seems to test the validity of the analysis, which I suspect is quite blurry in some areas, rather like the astrology readings in the newspapers. To be true to type one must seriously question both the reasoning and interpretation of results by the originators of the tests. There are almost certainly numerous sub-groups which, if carefully researched would indicate interesting additional results. This, of course, creates a paradox - you can't be true to type and question the validity of the types, can you?

Somehow I am a web developer starting a hosting business lol I am already in one of the careers am suppose to. I am wondering how would we do as travel agents?

My mind is always occupied with unnecessary opinions for everything.. I don't really like this aspect of my personality but I don't know how to stop it. It's how my mind automatically perceive my surrounding.. Does anybody have any suggestions on how to reduce it? I have a tendency to upset people unintentionally because of this..

Well, I'm the 1% of women that is an INTJ. Everything is spot-on.
And yes, I'm non-religious and perpetuate the stereotype of atheist INTJs. NO SHAME.

Ramble of my thoughts and experiences as an INTJ.

I loved skimming through the comments. To me it was if the ones like "Perfect!.. This describes me 100%! :)", "so true", "I agree.... I was scared when I saw how accurate this was" are not INTJs. Then I skimmed down further and saw paragraphs. That's more like it. Of course not saying the above comments were not done by INTJs just seem improbable.

When I graduated College in 2008 is when Myer Briggs was introduced to me (good friend ENTJ). At the time he showed me this I was analyzing my flaws and trying to make sense of them. Kinda went loopy since I started to see things my other friends couldn't understand because to me it made so much sense with no social approval (I figured because the life scenarios I were rambling on about are usually answered with emotional response over logic by the general population). I then read a psychology text book that also helped to piece my theories together. For instance disorders, mental age and perception.

Perception is a major one. I was ever into people growing up but not being able to conquer my flaws bothered me. Movies, detective shows, and music really helped me to imagine putting myself into someone else's shoes. Why and how, how and why make up these characters? Why and how, how and why did this individual have that motive? What kind of person does this song describe or appeal to ("Kimbra - Settle Down" I liked because to me it's insight into a completely different world)?

Sociology and physiology are not considered natural sciences. However if it does not exist in nature than how does it exist at all?

Anybody notice that, despite INTJs allegedly representing a mere 2% of the population,the internet seems to be rife with them/us? Also, I question the accuracy of the Myers-Briggs test given that it seems to oversimplify the human experience into 4 major categories (despite the presence of 16 sub-categories). Are we to truly believe that 7 billion people will all think/act one of 16 ways?

I honestly was really shocked at how relevant this information is...It's quite weird when you think your special, but these things have already been noticed and planned out.

Hillary Clinton is not an INTJ. Maybe close, but no.

Hillary Clinton and Al Gore have never taken an MBTI test and if they had, they have not shared it with the world. Neither is an INTJ and this site has made itself irrelevant by stating a belief that has no basis in fact.

i think the video gets me a good amount, but see the thing with the sticky emotional issues that i've seen with many of my friends aren't that hard for me. i put little emotion into my reasoning for fixing the problem but i'm not that cold. i have a good mood towards a lot of things because i think that pretty much anything can be fixed if people would either make a compromise or just forget about some silly emotional factor in the whole thing. i also think i am slightly more extroverted than most INTJ's because i have no fear in being social as some are. I honestly don't care whether i'm by myself or social, almost everything is just fine to me. Something i found funny was that this page says that INTJ's are least likely to believe in a higher power or god figure, I'm a christian XD. and no that is no hole in my personality of being intj, simply the existance of a God actually makes sense, evidence is not required to make a decision that there is a god. logic does. simple scientific logic says that there must be something to make something, so a god only makes sense. something out side of the law has to make the law, duh

Add Astronomy and Philosophy to the list! Both fields are mostly dominated by all _NT_ types (as far as I think). I'm an Astrophysics major, Math minor, and Philosophy minor myself, and I love those fields.

Im 16 and an intj in a boarding school, while everyone else has a ambition in mind, i have totally no idea. I see that none of all jobs in the world suits me as my opinion towards anything and everything is never fixed. I am so passionate into trying out new stuffs, but i think is that neccessary? I wonder where my patience lies... The fundamental academic in 16: choose your subjects. And well, i have no idea and feel so helpless, easily irritable. My friends describe my ego at times as their nightmare, perhaps one of the reasons i m stucked to a bunch of same friends. I had two suicide plans previously after some mental breakdowns or stress however obviously the plans did not work out seeing that i m writing this post because i changed my mind. There was once i almost got nearer and more nearer to the 'light' or Illuminati, but not anymore. I hope i m done! Which i think i would never be...

This test describes me rather good. After looking into the MBTI theory and after analyzing various scenarios, I already knew that I'm an INTJ before taking this test. I got an unsure answer about my T/F-ratio, which I also can agree on, since I can recognize some strong traits from INFJ as well.

I am confused I got this result.

Yes I over think things. I second-guess myself, it is like a OCD. I'm a perfectionist so much that I sabotage everything.
Yes I'm logical, but then I also am a dreamer and an idealist but then again also a realist.

I was an atheist but then leaned towards agnostic after learning more about different histories and cultures, so I can't rule out that there is something, I just won't have the knowledge or tools to discover it in my lifetime and I'm cool with that.

The one thing I dont like is that is says INTJ's like science and technology. I hate it and fear it's advancement because it is more for profit than for benefit and it will go too far, because the number rule of science isn't "why, but rather why not?"
No I am more into respecting nature and natural laws instead. I do like art but I feel art has taking on a new form in the new century to push agendas instead of reflecting life and dreams which was the aspects I liked most of art.
Pity.

Man I hate being an INTJ. It always sounds like we're mean dysfunctional people. Almost all of the descriptions scream "a-hole" when I read them. Not all of us relish being in this trait group as some sort of badge. There are significant downsides to being in this group. We don't do people well, and we're practically endangered because we suck at dating. :(

I'm having a hell of a time at a high tech company in retail, because all they value are extroverts. Despite your more experience and high productivity, younger, more perky extroverts are routinely being promoted above me. Its driven me to take a leave of absence in order to regroup.

Has anyone else successfully negotiated these treacherous waters?

This is very accurate in terms of describing me. However, I am quite religious whilst most INTJ's are unlikely to believe in a higher power. I have a very legal mind and actually wanted to train as a lawyer, so I do like analyzing systems. I hope to use this test to help inform me about my future career direction and choices.

This is bang on for me. Regarding the religion aspect, I was raised in the Christian religion but by the age of 10 knew it wasn't for me. That's not to say that I don't believe in a higher power, I do believe there is some force out there. What I don't believe in is following a religion. Most religions are more about controlling others than about spirituality.

Scary accurate, I couldn't have described myself better.

Percentage of INTJ men and women in the population is interesting. It may be more interesting if region/country wise percentage is incorporated under the said heading.

I absolutely love the idea that only 1% of women think like me lol explains why they all friggin hate me so much haha, i say all us intj..ings? Gather and discuss, its so bloody difficult to find people that think on the same level as yourself!

To be honest, I was really mad that I got ISTJ instead of INTJ for a variety of reasons. First off, I am very much the master mind type! I absolutely detest many of the established social norms in this world and often bear a great disdain for humans/ human nature in general (as opposed to ISTJ which says that they are very traditional and respect established traditions and customs)! One of my primary goals is to be a revolutionary inventor that brings about significant improvement to this world!! For crying out loud, I even study relativity and quantum mechanics in my leisure time for that purpose (and also because it is fun)! I very rarely am ok with someone else taking charge in something that I am involved in, and to be honest I tremendously desire power!!!! For goodness sake, one of the people in fiction that I admire most is Madara Uchiha (for those who know who that is and what series that references)! How the heck can I not be INTJ?!!! Also, ISTJ mentioned valuing authority. Seriously?!!! I hate just about all forms of hierarchy with an intense passion!!!!!!!!!!

Here is the worst of it all:

They said that ISTJ made up most of the population!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That just ticks me off! I know for a fact that I am not just "normal"!!! When I was in Kindergarten one teacher even speculated that I was autistic! My mom took me to a doctor and the doctor said that I wasn't, but I kind of want a 2nd opinion! Even in more modern times at my current age, there have been some people who have questioned my mental health state. I know that I am not "normal"! My own mother has noted that I am not normal! (And yes I am proud of not being normal!)

To me who detests human nature and being imperfect, being called "normal" is probably on my top 5 to top 10 list of the most insulting insults!

So what if I'm a pretty systematic guy when it comes to working?! Well excuse me for believing that if something constantly seems to work well then it is a good idea to keep doing it! That doesn't mean that I deserve to be insulted in such a manner!

Sorry for such a long rant. It is just that some of the things in ISTJ just really rub me the wrong way and I say INTJ fits me much better! Some of the things in ISTJ were correct about me, but INTJ would be a better fit!