The Love/Hate Relationship Between INTJs and Corporate America

Clinically Reviewed by Steven Melendy, PsyD. on July 04, 2017

It was the best of times; it was the worst of times. No, not Dickens, but an apt summary of the radical opposites taking place between my INTJ psyche and the corporate world I found myself working in for almost 16 years. It's a story of contrasts and comparisons between the massive success I achieved and the desperate, inescapable desire to "get out while you can."

The story begins many years ago when I was a fresh-faced graduate, starting my very first job as a junior lawyer in a multinational law firm. This was not in corporate America, but in the City of London - a square-mile sized financial district which may as well be the 51st state. Strenuous workloads, high pressure and unpaid overtime are par for the course in the square mile, but the pay is exceptional and the prestige unparalleled. This is, after all, an area that generates almost three-quarters of Britain's entire GDP.

I was naive about the corporate world, but not that naive. I understood that I'd have to work harder than I had ever worked before. I understood that I'd be expected to hand over every ounce of my youthful energy and the company would never hug me back. But I figured, corporate life has so much going for it. Where else on earth do you get paid to learn?

Being the spreadsheet queen, I carefully vetted the firms I could potentially work for, choosing only those that met my strict criteria. Not too big and not too small. A top-quality training system. A history for hiring broadly, not falling back on the tiny minority of lawyers who attended Oxford or Cambridge. Staff who spoke with a regional dialect. A reputation for excellence and - if such a firm existed - a culture of slight irreverence; an organization that didn't take itself too seriously and displayed a healthy disregard for the rules.

Somehow, I skipped past the gatekeepers at my chosen firm and landed myself a job.

And over the next decade, I rocked the corporate world.

INTJs, Corporate Power Players

I didn't know anything about personality science before I started work in law. By some quirk of fate, I landed a job that, on paper at least, is a perfect match for INTJs who like to read, write and argue. My early experiences bear this out.

For one, I got to do tons of busy, complex work. File after file, case after case landed on my desk, and I got to figure out ways to make those cases run more efficiently. I became a master of processes, cribs, automation and shortcuts. I got stuff done faster than anyone else in the office. I spent my days digging into complex pieces of legislation and coming up with commercial solutions to knotty legal problems. The clients were happy because I got results. The firm was happy because I generated lots of billing. And my numbers just kept getting better over time. This was my perfect environment.

Second, I got rewarded for my work ethic. Law firms - and I suspect, all profit-oriented business organizations - love those who work hard and settle for nothing less than results. If you're self-disciplined, utterly driven to produce your best work, and adaptable enough to handle anything thrown at you, the corporate world will kiss your bottom line. Perks, promotions and bonuses were thrown around the City like water, and they were largely reliant on your billing figures - basically, how much revenue you generated for the firm. It's a transparent and highly pleasing system for INTJs who love the idea that achievement equals reward. 

Third, there were just so many opportunities available to people who worked for a City brand. I can't tell you the number of doors that opened because of the strong corporate firm on my resume; the quality of training and experience you get from these big players rarely goes unnoticed by prospective employers. Even if you take a different path as I eventually did, the credibility you get from working in the corporate sector really does help boost your career options over the long term.

There were deadlines of course, and risk, and pressure, and all the stress that comes from having millions of pounds at stake. If I'm brutally honest, I sort of loved the survival-of-the-fittest aspect to it all. There wasn't much room for the plodders, the dimwits, the work shy, or the stooges - success came in the form of achievement. The cream rose, talent thrived, and this made sure you pushed yourself to the limits where others might give up and move on. It was efficient, it was ruthless, and it was fascinatingly Darwinian.

For a few years, I thought that I had grabbed the brass ring when I took that job.

Turns out, what I had actually pulled was the short straw.

You Are What You Do

A few things went down.

My boorish boss went on vacation leaving a pile of files on my desk with a post-it note saying "pls deal." No briefing, no client introductions, no list of critical dates. His behavior amounted to negligence, but ultimately, he did not have to worry about the repercussions because he had power. He knew that an overworked underling would step in to save his skin.   

Then, I ended up having to cancel a New Year's trip I had been looking forward to because my managing partner "needed me in the office." A high-value client had to get a deal over the line before their financial year end, which just happened to be December 31st, and the partner couldn't close the transaction on his own. I arrived at work on December 27th and did a few insignificant bits and pieces. December 28th was as quiet as the night before Christmas. 29th, 30th .... On December 31st, the partner didn't even show up. "Deal's not happening," he said, "Happy New Year." The worst thing wasn't missing the New Year's trip to Edinburgh, it was the realization that there was never any pressing deadline at all. I felt like I'd been gaslighted.

Over the next few years, 10 hour days turned to 12 hour days, 12 hour days turned to 14 hour days followed by heavy compulsory drinking with clients and company picnics on Sundays. Then up at six the next morning to show your dedication. The deals I was working on were starting to look a lot like the deals I'd been working on the year before (and the year before that). The training pool was desert-dry for senior associates whose only purpose was to rack up the billable hours. 

Then I received the killer blow. "We can't make you a partner just yet," the (negligent boor of a) partner said. "The new policy is that you have to have brought in a client worth £1 million per year." "What about James?" I asked, speaking of the new junior partner whose head was so far up the department head's ass, he could have performed a colonoscopy (name changed to protect the innocent). "You've made him up and he hasn't brought in any clients." "Yes, but we think he might," came the instant reply. "He's really good with people."

A few weeks later I was in a bar, chatting to a terribly handsome young man. Inevitably, he asked me what I did. "I am lawyer," I replied. He wasn't impressed. "Yeah," he said. "You look like one."

The following day, I bleached my hair and had my navel pierced. Part of me minded looking like a lawyer. But a bigger part of me minded being one.

It's All About the Politics

It is often said that the people who succeed in corporate America aren't those who are best at their jobs, but those who are good at office politics. Do INTJs want to work in an environment where perceptions, presentation and schmoozery carry more weight than talent, output, and how effective you are at your job?

Don't answer that. It's a rhetorical question.

All businesses are political - and to some degree, they have to be. The primary reason is that they employ people, to work for people, in order to make money for other people. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out, in order to achieve this objective, that you have to get along with people. More accurately, since politics is aimed at improving someone's status within a hierarchy, you're supposed to get ahead of people, or at least try to keep up with people who are trying to get ahead of you. This is not a logical or a meritocratic process. As the great Dale Carnegie once observed: "When dealing with people, remember you are not dealing with creatures of logic, but with creatures bristling with prejudice and motivated by pride and vanity."

For INTJs, this means finding a compromise between what should be done and what actually can be done within the confines of office politics. Because of the personalities involved, the most you can hope for is a zero-sum game. Too often, an INTJ ends up brushing against a (negligent, boorish) boss or flying under the radar just because they've - shock, horror - made the work a priority instead of feathering the right nests. And all the while the company is erroneously associating leadership skills with a particular type of extroversion - the overt display of ego, being "good with people," driving through goals with sheer force of will. There's a reason why people elected Donald Trump as the exemplar of a great leader, and not Hillary Clinton.

Playing the game, in order to get a promotion, is a stye in the eye of the beholder. INTJs are firm believers that good work, in the sense of creating something of real value, lands you a senior role. In reality, it's people like James who get rewarded for not putting in the hard work and not doing anything for the good of the company other than kissing the right behinds. It makes me mad. But it never made me mad enough to compromise my principles and behave like him.

The Barrier of "Otherness"

At this point, we start seeing how truly difficult and challenging it is for anyone "other" to break the glass ceiling. Otherness, in this context, is usually referencing women, minority groups, and people of color. But it applies equally to personalities that do not fit the image of the corporate beau ideal. ISTP, ISFP, INTP, INFP and INFJ personalities fare particularly badly in a corporate world that has no idea how to access their skills and capabilities.   

Do we include INTJ as an "other?" My gut feeling is no. With the right motivation and the right reward system, the INTJ has every chance of flying high in the corporate world. We're smart, we're adaptable, we're grafters, we're fixers and we're cynical enough to recognize that everyone is a small cog in a large money-making machine. Mr Corporate recognizes these skills far better than it recognizes, say, an INFP's altruism or an ISFP's creativity.

In any relationship, there are two sides of the fence. Instead of waging war against the corporate world, I do wonder if we should be looking closer and understanding the role we play in it. The INTJ, the rarest of types, has the uncommon position of possessing great potential in whatever field she is compelled to, but at the same time, understands that she does not fit the mold of the corporate master plan. How does she apply that knowledge? Does the ship steer a fairer course with an INTJ at the helm? Should we all bail out of Corporate America for sanity's sake, or should we use our peculiar talents to change the system from within? I don't know the answers to those questions, but I sometimes wish I'd been brave enough to try to make a difference. 

The long and short is, that if you want or need the corporate world to achieve your goals, you have the potential to do it, and to do it well. You have the potential to play the system, add value, and not slip through the cracks.

No one can tell you what to do with your life and it's trite to say there's no one-size-fits-all career that will lead you to happiness. What does work, however, is exposure to new ideas, like-minded people and a safe environment for you to explore your interests. What's an INTJ to do if the corporate world is not that environment? He learns to adapt. It is, after all, our biggest strength.

Jayne Thompson

Jayne is a B2B tech copywriter and the editorial director here at Truity. When she’s not writing to a deadline, she’s geeking out about personality psychology and conspiracy theories. Jayne is a true ambivert, barely an INTJ, and an Enneagram One. She lives with her husband and daughters in the UK. Find Jayne at White Rose Copywriting.

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About the Clinical Reviewer

Steven Melendy, PsyD., is a Clinical Psychologist who received his doctorate from The Wright Institute in Berkeley, California. He specializes in using evidence-based approaches in his work with individuals and groups. Steve has worked with diverse populations and in variety of a settings, from community clinics to SF General Hospital. He believes strongly in the importance of self-care, good friendships, and humor whenever possible.


Raj Balesar (not verified) says...

Thanks for sharing this interesting story...i fully relate to it and have been wondering myself if i should just get out of this corporate rat race and start something for myself. Then again i also think about all the prestige i will "loose" when i move out of the corporate world...anyways thanks for sharing this insightful piece of text...

CalebB (not verified) says...

Excellent treatment of INTJ and corporate dynamics. Thanks! 

Maggie1 (not verified) says...

This story resonated.  I too worked in a labour relations legal type setting and sponged up all the education and training available, made myself indespensible to others, plowed through work and was always called for after hour urgent projects.  But after years of watching the extroverted glad-handers get the promotions, not for their knowledge or even organizational skills, you start to get cynical.  It wouldn't have been bad if these types had been good delegators of work or builders of effective teams, but it started to feel like you had to educate these people first so they'd be able to make the right decisions.  So when I became tired of the politics and burned out I quit and opened a boarding house for adult foreign students.  Thus,  I can have the day to myself and also indulge my passion for exotic cooking.  At supper time I can engage my students in discussions around food, foregin affairs and cultural issues.

AJ C. (not verified) says...

Very good, relatable, write up Jayne, I have been struggling with this for a while now also... working in a secure well-paying job, getting promotions, but not feeling an ounce of fulfillment. I am glad you took the plunge and became a freelance writer, looking for my own pool, per say, now. Ugh, the life of an INTJ :)

Jay Rosenberg (not verified) says...


Superb thoughtful article. Noticed the plays on words, very INTJ.

You make a good case, but I think you'd need E rather than I before NTJ to win your case in the setting you describe. There are some great INTJ leaders, you know: Bill Gates, Steve Jobs (some ENTJ), Margaret Thatcher. 

Trump, by the way, we think is a hyper-vengeful ENTJ with some ESTP, though the jury is out on him being a great leader. Hillary, an INTJ, could have used an E also, though Mr. Comey, you think an ISTJ? certainly did what his type sometimes does.

Kind regards, Jay (INTJ)

Michael R (not verified) says...

Great article Jayne,   one that is far far too familiar.

Melissa J. Armstrong (not verified) says...

Well written article. I can surely identify with Jayne's experience as both an INTJ and employee or a large corporation. 

JV127 (not verified) says...

I've seen this time and time again over my 20 plus year career.  I've contemplated jumping ship numerous times. However, the only way this INTJ has been able to survive in the corporate world is to continually adapt (this has been mentioned). Thank you for sharing this article. It is very well written and informative.

Greta (not verified) says...

Adaptation works untill you run into a narcissist abusive boss. 

I worked for 16 years in one of the largest oil companies. The first 13 bosses accepted the benefits of having an INTJ gracefully. The last one could not. When the abuse and gaslighting did not bend or break me, he simply fired me killing the system which I nurtured. No reason given, no handover requested.

He hurt the business, not my problem any more. I am glad I didn't have to pull the plug. INTJ don't give up easily.

JV (not verified) says...

Yes, adaptation would not work in this situation. I can imagine how difficult it was after being respected for years and then having to put up with a knuckle-dragger.  I was faced with a similar situation after a company merger, but I jumped ship after being worn down (it took a lot).  I’m sure things will work out for you.

kellyblack (not verified) says...

I had this very same experience working at large corporate ad agencies.  I was adored by clients and also by the top brass who trusted me to get things done creatively and effectively.  But truthfully, I probably didn't have the people skills to succeed at the top.  I switched to freelancing and enjoyed it much more.  Meanwhile, my husband, an ENTJ, became a CEO.

Ernest Hansen (not verified) says...

I have had similar experiences. Thank you for sharing your experiences. I am a retired software engineer and have seen companys come and companys go. When the company politics lacks synergy they go.

C-W (not verified) says...

I spent all my life wondering why I felt different. I have even within the last 5 years have found myself repeatedly questioning why I was so abnormal for not liking the same activities as my friends and never seemed to truly connect with anyone / feel understood. It was a question I asked myself in private and in therapy. Only during law school did I discover the Myers Briggs Personalities. Finding I was an INTJ was such an amazing feeling - FINALLY everything makes sense. I no longer had to feel like I was crazy. 

I was searching the internet for more information about INTJ females because I have, in the last few years of my newfound career as an attorney in corporate America, realized that there indeed is a difference in experiencing life as an INTJ female rather than INTJ male. Not necessarily a wide gulf of differences but enough to warrant my commenting (I am never one to jump into online conversations) here because I am so glad I came upon your blog post. 

I have been, as of late, considering the very issue you've laid out here. I see so much inefficiency, incompetence, and very little desire to make an effort and take pride in the work one does. I've reached a point in my career where I recognize that to climb up further on the corporate ladder, I will have even less chance to keep my nose down and do some actual work because those who get promoted are those who are good at spending all their time in meeting with the client (I work in-house at a retail company so not as many hours but definitely not as well paid). I've been wondering whether it's time to change my life a bit because I clearly find this environment frustrating. But do I find it frustrating enough to just grit my teeth and do something to change things around at a company? Because if not, then I should sit down and just stop complaining about all the things I find infuriating about the way things work at corporations. Do I have it in me to try? Your article has been so thoughtfully written and I truly thank you because I think I've found the answer to my internal struggle. 

NN (not verified) says...

This article is spot-on.  I have had this struggle in my career for YEARS.  As I've gotten older, it has gotten more acute.  Most of you have issues as an INTJ because you are no-nonsense, capable, ambitious, and independent thinkers.  That's supposed to be a good thing in the corporate world, right?  Most of you, especially guys, are considered managerial material because of this — a straight-shooter with qualities to be admired.  Yes, you may struggle more in the corporate world because you're an INTJ instead of an ENTJ, but you don't have it as bad as some.  

These "admirable qualities" actually work against me.  I am a minority female.  I'm too independent for most supervisors (male or female), so we always end up in a petty power struggle because they feel the need to control me because I have my own (tried and true) ideas about how I do my work.  For this reason, they are too busy trying to make me over in their image instead of focusing on my work and helping me be productive.  So, in addition to hating the whole "kiss butts to get ahead" approach, I have to deal with the difference in corporate culture (which was established by whites) and my culture. Yes, believe it or not, sometimes common white corporate cultural practices do clash with other cultures (educate yourself).  

So, I'm dealing with a double-whammy lie about corporate america: (1) work hard, and you'll get ahead (for young people) (2) be four times as good and you'll get ahead (for minorities). doesn't work!  Schmoozing does work better.  But when you are not the schmoozing type and gaining access to the people who COULD propel you seems almost IMPOSSIBLE because you lack certain "commonalities" that make bonding "easier" (because you are a minority woman), it feels like a NO-WIN situation.

Truly frustrating to say the least.  No matter how hard I work, how much I know, how much I try to assimilate, how affable I am to seem more easy-going, how much I try to add (and prove my) value, it doesn't matter.  There's the glass ceiling...and then there's the brown ceiling.  The latter is harder to break than the former.  I'm seriously coming to the conclusion that I need to work for myself.

MissDisplaced (not verified) says...

"Most of you have issues as an INTJ because you are no-nonsense, capable, ambitious, and independent thinkers."

Sadly, I have come to realize that Corporate America does NOT value that at all.  It values bullshitting and relationships. 


Someone really needs to start a job board specifically for INTJ Females because it is my belife we get taken advantage of, or scapegoated so often in the corporate world because WE WILL NOT COMPLY with mundane and silly power control moves.  I will ultimatley refuse to be 'made over' to fit their ideal, and yes, they will always want to control us, because deep down they are afraid of us. 

Neville (not verified) says...

Thanks for the article. Spot on. 

I'm an INTJ and this resonates with me. I've spent over the past decade in an industry that I care about intensely. The problem is that it relies heavily on practical activity rather than quiet reflection. The people who control the power are usually people who value practical activity and 'experience'. Of course, experience matters, but doing the same thing every year for 20 years isn't 20 years experience. I don't want to 'overthrow' anyone. I don't even want anyone's job. I just want them to stop doing pointless things and getting terrible results. These incompetent people will resent you for knowing how to fix their problem and try to 'kill' you instead of just listening. It's a combination of temperaments that gets results. Having a clear vision and being able to combine many big ideas together to create a system of continuous improvement is what INTJ's do for the team. It's a tragedy when this is compromised for the group because of pettiness.

Pigbitin Mad (not verified) says...

So true. You try to improve their pointless idiotic wasteful system and they refuse to even consider it. I have plenty of goood reasons why I do things the way I do, but since it "doesn't look nice" my ideas are shut down almost instantly. I decided long ago that I refuse to teach underlings or supervisors any of my methods that may actually help them (so I just create my own system on my own hard drive). It's pointless and stupid because it makes about ten times more work for me, but it is better than actually letting someone steal my ideas.

Like you said, I don't want to be the boss. I do things for one reason only. MONEY! And, I am essentially lazy and am only interested in devising the simplest and shortest path to that money. If these people would STFU and let me do things my way, they might find they need fewer people around and it would save them more money.

Ana M J (not verified) says...

Excellent article Jayne! 

It is truly so relatable.

And wouldn't be surprised that the protagonist dealing with the ridiculousness of office politics here is also a female. 

Jumped ship in less than two years cause I can't see squandering my principles as an option. Strategizing how best to apply my INTJ peculiarities to future work.

Sanjay (not verified) says...

The things you say in this article are so relatable it's scary! As the new guy in the office for a large corporation I am struggling to make my presence felt. I like being busy but at the same time it needs to be productive. I see so much inefficiency and I know everyone see its as well but no-one wants to make any changes. It's frustrating to be kept busy all day doing work of no real value just so your manager can report to their manager that their resources are being utilised. In fact, it makes me sick. Especially with the money some of these people are making. I have built up technical knowledge over the past few months but I know from looking at the hierarchy that I can never progress to the next level. The way you have to behave as a manager is something that is just not in me. But after a certain age, I know I cannot see myself running around for someone else. For me, with my background, I will always be in white collar work. But I guess I must move companies every now and then until I find a smaller business in which I specialise in something and earn the respect of my colleagues. That's my plan for now. They say you should leavr your comfort zone every now and then, well entering the corporate world is more than enough for me! Finally, I don't ever actually dream of leading a company as a CEO anyway. Yes, I would like to be higher up and have more power but maybe there is a limit for everyone?

Chuckie (not verified) says...

Stopped reading at "I". INTJs don't want to read about someone talking about themself.

LAnonymous (not verified) says...

Spot on to my expirience. Being a female leader in a male dominant environment has really given me quite the challenge. But im good at what i do and im always striving to learn and complete everyones uncompleted tasks. I guess alot of people are intimidated because i just have this knack for noticing EVERYTHING without even trying and without even looking. Ive also been described as being really really bubbly or really really serious. Theres no in between. Anywho, given that i have a natural skillset in my field... I get treated far worse than the others who are on the same level as i. And everytime i point it out, they shove me deeper in a situation where i have less authority. Imagine being trapped in a room where everytime you manage to find an escape, something goes wrong. But this is life or death and you cant give up on finding the escape and mcgyvering your way out. You know theres a way out. You can feel it. And youll go as far as to hurt yourself to escape that room. Thats exactly what my work expirience feels like currently. But im not dealing with it for me, im dealing with it for my subordinates. Im dealing with it because one day, I want to be able to look at the ego that caused my depression and i want it to know that i can annihilate it.. But that im not gonna stoop down to that level. 

I will be successful. 


Chuck999 (not verified) says...

As an INTJ, I can tell you that nobody gives a shit about your life story. 

Robbie London (not verified) says...

Really interesting article and comments section. I think the important part is that businesses serve the stakeholders, employees serve senior management etc. So your role is to make managers happy, sometimes than means deliberately doing bad work so they feel smart. Read the book ‘50 corporate secrets they don’t want you to know” it helped me massively understand the hidden rules in the workplace. My experience of 4 years in banking in city of London; people who succeed are anyone who can be controlled. I often experience control tactics such as fear-relief cycles from managers. INTJs need to be fulfilled - I am looking for jobs in other sectors. Wishing everyone the best!

Somebody (not verified) says...

Sounds like INTJ's pull the weight of the rest of Corporate America. Wonder what would happen if all the INTJ's teamed up to go on strike...

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