I am INTJ

Iam not like Hillary Clinton.

She has low standards and no sense of morality or ethics

I have high standards and a sense of morality and I have eithics

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Grace Elizabeth (not verified) says...

I agree fullyyyyyy

Nate C (not verified) says...

Well then, let’s hope you’re not like Trump either. You claim some standard of morality and ethics, so you can’t be. Let’s not single out one rung of the ladder without discussing the (binary) lower rungs. 

PCP (not verified) says...

Oh Grace - do you know her?  Seems like you may not be an INTJ - you don't seem very capable of understanding the complexity associated with a personality type.  There is much more that goes into a person than these few metrics along with the fact that Hillary functions on a level of social management that very, very few ever encounter.  Hillary is forced to make extremely complex decisions on a daily basis that go beyond normal morality and ethics.  If you were really an INTJ, I think you would intuitively understand that.  I would suggest trying the test again and being honest with yourself.

Zack1123 (not verified) says...

How do you know? The items in which you mention difference are in the realm of axiology, which aren't something categorically defined by INTJ (or most other) typologies.

Ailius (not verified) says...

He certainly seems to match the "J" part.

I'm inclined to agree with him too. Hillary Clinton was a professional politician and has explicitely stated she had a public persona she put on for branding purposes. I highly doubt she is introverted. The 'default' personality for politicians is ENTJ, so the assessment of her public persona only one dimension off.

DoniDarkos (not verified) says...

So? What is the point of this discussion? A way to start a political shenanigans? I really have a hard time grasping the "intent" of this post seriously

MaxiMQode says...

I am ENTP
Iam not like Hillary either! :)
God bless us. :D

But seriously, I think an INTJ is more likely to be the mind not the hand. Isn't it correct??

Kitteh (not verified) says...

:')) I instantly felt the same way <3 

 

Jolly Holly (not verified) says...

Hmmm, I am a 50-year old female INTJ and I agree about Hillary not seeming like an INTJ.  Before I even start, you can relax all of you who will tell me I can't really know her. Obviously I understand that I am seeing her public persona (duh), but I have been watching her for over 25 years and there has been a LOT of footage out there to consume of her doing interviews, debates, etc..  And remember, we INTJs, are dominant perceivers (not Judgers) and are excellent at perceiving underlying meaning because our dominant function is introverted intuition.  If you know the MBTI cognitive functions well (and I do) and watch a person a lot (and I have), I believe you can get an accurate idea of which type they are. 

I admit that I can see some similarities with INTJ (e.g. she's definitely a Judger and Thinker and probably an introvert) but I have always doubted she is an intuitive.  There are too many INTJ qualities that seem to be missing in her to be strong in the Ni-Te duo.  Albeit, these qualities are probably things that only an MBTI expert or another INTJ would pick up on.

First of all, where is her confidence with her Extrovert Thinking on her vision for the future?  What was her vision???  It's just not there. Yes, she is arrogant, but that is the opposite of deep confidence.  An INTJ with her background would have acquired such a strong, quiet confidence, especially by her age, by vast mastery of intellectual knowledge that she would be able to speak with ease and INSPIRE and LEAD.  An INTJ in her position would be such a master of her subject matter that she would ooze passion and vision.  When we INTJs know our stuff, we can talk fluently and comfortably about it at length.  But she really struggles in articulating her future vision.  In fact, I kept watching for her to tell it to us in the last election but it never happened.  The Hillary vision is just NON-EXISTENT.   I believe this is because her Te is focused on Sensing, NOT Intuition.  She comes across very weak with the inspiring, future-solution-thinking type of style. 

INTJs are visionaries and naturally, deeply passionate about their ideas for the future.  We NEED to look forward and be creative in big ways.  We NEED to do things that have never been imagined, hence the reason so many of us are scientists and programmers, both very creative pursuits.  You all thinking about her healthcare plan, don't even go there.  That is nothing compared to the visions we INTJs have.  That's just policy slightly remixed and regurgitated from the status quo.  She is like a wet noodle when it comes to having a strong vision.  She is MUCH more comfortable with the status quo (like a Sensor).  A true INTJ would LOATHE the status quo.  We want to change the world in huge ways!  I don't want to sound cruel but from an INTJ perspective on that visionary trait, she just seems downright ignorant, even stupid.  Listening to her stump speeches, I was thinking, Come ON!  Is that all you've got??!!   I was frankly very disappointed.  Bernie FAR surpassed her on the vision and inspiration!  I think if you want to see vision and intution in action, look at Bernie Sanders.  I believe he is an NT or NF.  But not Hillary.

Sensors are not meant to be visionaries.  And she is definitely not a visionary.  So, that's my biggest red flag.  I am sure the Sensors reading this that love her will consider her to be very visionary but trust me, she's not.  It's all relative.  When comparing her to myself and other INTJs I have known, she's small potatoes.  That's why she doesn't inspire anyone (except with regard to her gender). 

Oh yeah and that's another thing that does not fit an INTJ.  An INTJ woman would not feel entitled to votes simply for being a woman.  That would be insulting to the intelligence of an INTJ.  We expect to be respected for our intellect, achievments, knowledge and our strategy and keen vision for the future (gender is not earned and is therefore irrelevant to making a decision, so nothing to feel proud of).  An INTJ cares about the character of a person and their ideas solutions and vision, not their gender. When I saw her asking for votes because she's a woman, I just shook my head.  Don't get me wrong, as a woman, I would love to see a woman in the white house, but not unless she's got vision and can inspire true change.  Hillary just doesn't have those qualities.  I believe she is an ISTJ.

Jolly Holly (not verified) says...

Oh, and one more big thing!  INTJs are very passionate about their values.  We have introverted feeling and have strong ideas about right and wrong, treating people with dignity and respect, war, environement, etc.  Hillary does not seem to have strong values even though as an ISTJ, she would also share Fi as her relief function.  But, she's too detached from people and seems more driven by status than any kind of deep passion for human beings.  Just sayin'.  Yes, obviously I'm aware of her "non-profit" work but I don't see it being motivated by a true caring for people.  I see it as being motivated by her deep-seated need for high status and approval.  I won't go so far as to say she's a covert narcissist, but it would not surprise me.

Sarah123 (not verified) says...

Spot on Jolly Holly! Thank you.

L.E.O. (not verified) says...

Hilary Clinton does not posses the complex mind of an INTJ.  If she had, she would have beat out the ENTJ in the election.  She is an ISTJ/ESTJ.  Thank God for small miracles.

MDurant (not verified) says...

I agree with you. Like you, I don't agree with her ethics or values. I do think that one of the reasons she has difficulty connecting with voters is because she is an INTJ. Fundamentally I believe she thinks the average voter is rather stupid, and she is probably right. Most people are highly suggestible. And that shows on her face, which is why she seems insincere. She has decided that in order to get what she wanted politically, she had to make a 'bargain with the devil' and that is to appear to care about the average person. Perhaps hard work and determination only take you so far. She will never seem to be 'personable' the way Bill does. 

KlondikeKate (not verified) says...

Give the politics a rest. Seriously. The opinions stated are personal and do not in many cases reflect reality. You know what they say about opinions and, even as INTJ's, we have those as well. Speculation about anyone else's "personality type", which isn't an exact science by the way, is just speculation. Ridiculous to even discuss. My opinion is that Trump has a personality disorder in the Cluster B family. Do I have proof of that? Nope. Just my opinion. And not worth discussing here.

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